Jiggy's Top 30 BBS Backups 2005 (30-16)
Oct 5, 2012 21:06:22 GMT -5
Post by Jiggy on Oct 5, 2012 21:06:22 GMT -5
Just a few words on the ranking system: Only players with 27mpg or less were eligible to be listed and had to have played in a minimum of 30 games by day 70. Also, players with glaring weaknesses (ie, Leandro Barbosa's handles) and players with lousy shooting percentages had to excell significantly in other areas to justify their placement. Also, because sortable stats aren't working for me, all of the numbers were gathered the hard way, so I didn't have the time to hunt down 30 approprate pictures to add. I know how we all love pictures.
And now...
Players 30 through 16
30- Eric Snow PG 44 21.7 5.9 2.3 4.0 0.7 0.1 1.1 .440 .811 .350 (NR)
Snow takes great care of the ball. If you project him out to 38mpg, he still doesn't crack 2 TOs. And he can hit jumpers when called upon. If I'm playing with the lead, there isn't another backup PG in the league that I'd feel more comfortable with spelling my starter. He won't lose you games, but he won't win you any either. He's solid, but there are no ifs ands or buts about his backup status. He is what he is.
29- Donyell Marshall SF 46 25.4 7.9 6.6 1.9 1.0 0.8 1.0 .432 .705 .440 (24)
Like his shooting percentages, Marshall slips a bit on this seasons list. Last year's 24th ranked player still puts up a healthy stat line though, and is still one of the better rebounding tweener forwards out there. Like Snow before him, you wouldn't want to be in a position where he'd have to start (which is why both players are ranked at the tail end off the list) but give him 20 or so minutes a night and he'll more than earn his check.
28- Kirk Hinrich PG 49 23.4 8.1 2.8 4.1 0.8 0.2 1.6 .430 .744 .353 (NR)
After making notable strides during his sophomore season, Hinrich's progress has slowed somewhat and now he appears to be the odd man out in Dallas. Though he could probably benefit from a change of scenery (he could probably find a starting job somewhere in BBS) his large contract will probably prevent that from happening for now. However, he's already shown that he can run an offense. He's not a big time passer or shooter, but he can manage 14ppg, while taking pretty good care of the ball and even grabbing some steals. If he can continue improving over the next couple of seasons, he very well could establish himself as a solid starter in this league.
27- Jameer Nelson PG 39 25.5 9.4 3.3 5.4 1.3 0.1 2.2 .428 .845 .389 (NR)
After starting the season deep on the bench, Nelson nabbed a starting role, lost it, and then gained it back again. It seems as though his development has stalled. And being in a RC/AC black hole like Toronto isn't going to help him progress. While his TOs are more of a problem than Hinrich's, he's got a better shot, is a better distributor and is a better statistical defender. He too would probably be better off wearing a different uniform.
26- Dan Gadzuric C 33 22.3 7.4 8.0 1.0 0.7 1.0 0.9 .391 .600 .000 (NR)
If given starter's minutes, Gads would probably be a top 10 rebounder in this league. He's also a pretty good defender and could probably muster double-digit scoring based on bulk alone. However, as we can see, the latter translates into some god-awful shooting percentages. Unlike his teammate Jameer Nelson, ending up in Toronto was best case scenario for Gads, as he was languishing on the deep benches of his previous employers. It looks like DJ got a bit of a steal in signing him to a 2 year minimum deal.
25- Andris Biedrins PF 48 21.2 8.3 6.0 1.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 .447 .629 .000 (NR)
While his numbers aren't that bad at all, it'll be hard for Biedrins to live up to his 7th overall pick status. Especially since hot shot Benny Go Go was picked at #8. And though he's got a long way to go in his development to even come close to justifying such a high selection, he has come along fairly well so far. Statistically speaking, he's improved in every single category, which has seen his reputation as a "meh" starter replaced with the "solid backup" label. Overall though, with the 7th pick, you're looking for a lot more than a solid backup, and since I can't see him developing into a legit starter, I think the term "bust" is more than applicable here.
24- Jason Williams PG 45 21.0 5.3 1.9 5.0 1.6 0.2 1.8 .476 .639 .351 (NR)
The best distributing backup PG in the league is also one of the best ball hawks out there. At one point last season, White Chocolate was leading the league in steals. But, he's also the guy who Troy Bell ran out of town, so there's that. His overall FG% has improved markedly since moving to the bench, but despite a B+ outside shooting grade, his range percentages are pretty bad for a point. He's also a poor rebounder...and then there are the turnovers. In his two years as a starter, he averaged 3 TOs a game and less than 10ppg on bad percentages. As a backup though, he seems to be on the fast track to success with the Spurs, and looks to be riding the pine straight to a championship.
23- Jahidi White PF 43 26.9 10.2 6.9 1.7 1.0 1.4 1.3 .451 .720 .000 (NR)
White is another player who has helped his stock by picking up minutes on a bad team. Other than his turnover totals being a little higher than you'd like for a big, he's a solid contributor in nearly every category, most notably points, steals and blocks. These numbers figure to get him a nice raise come FA, though something tells me it won't be from the Heat. I suspect that he'll price himself out of their comfort zone and end up as a MLE (getting far fewer minutes) on a playoff team.
22- Kendrick Perkins C 45 25.6 9.8 8.0 1.2 0.6 1.9 1.2 .394 .615 .000 (NR)
Big Perk!!! The first member of Denver's big rotation to make the list, he, like Dan Gadzuric, gets most of his offense on sheer bulk and ends up with pretty awful shooting percentages. And while Gads is a slightly better rebounder, Perk is suddenly a much better shot blocker, which is a premium statistical category in BBS. Still only 20, he probably still has some potential left to burn, and if things go well, he could end up as someone you'd feel comfortable with starting in a pinch.
21- T.J. Ford PG 42 10.6 4.1 1.0 1.8 0.5 0.0 0.7 .493 .727 .267 (7)
Last year's #7 is a prime example of how much better the talent level in BBS has risen in just one season. Despite ugly-ass letter grades, T.J. finds a way to do his job night after night. In fact, Washington may be better served by giving him a chance to start over Derek Fisher. If projections are any type of accurate measuring stick, Ford could be putting up comparable numbers on much better percentages and getting the steals that Fisher does. The assist totals would be lower, but so would the TOs and that's a trade-off I'd be willing to make. Give him a shot Jah. What's the worst that could happen?
20- Shane Battier SF 47 24.2 9.1 3.8 2.3 0.9 0.4 0.7 .451 .758 .374 (NR)
Battier probably would have ranked higher than 20 on last year's list based on his solid all-around game, but at press time he was shooting under 40%, which is pretty unacceptable for a wing, imo. He's still not a great scorer, but his percentages are now more than adequate to be ranked. Sure he's no longer an offensive liability and he always plays really good positional D, but what sets Shane apart from most of the other wings in the game is his ability to limit his turnovers. Projected out to starter's minutes, he could very well still average less than one a game. That's sick!
19- Kwame Brown PF 47 15.0 5.2 4.3 0.7 0.6 0.9 0.7 .433 .569 .000 (NR)
Who knew that Kwame could block shots? Not me. Not Maniac. In fact, I'm not even sure that Kwame knew. Yet somehow, he's nearly doubled his production in that category this season. With these backup bigs, I find that they're all basically the same player, each with a few subtle nuances. In 32 minutes, each will average 10-12 ppg and 8-10 rpg, shoot reletively poorly and look like a dildo with the ball in his hands. But what pushes Brown past the ones listed so far is his statistical defense. Being able to pick up steals and blocks at the rate that he does is something that every GM would like out of his backup bigs.
18- Radoslav Nesterovic C 43 21.9 7.0 7.0 1.1 0.7 1.2 0.6 .469 .653 .000 (22)
This season, Rado moves up a few spots from #22 to #18. So if the quality of backups in the league has increased and Rado has basically stayed the same, then why has he risen on the list and not fallen? Simple. There are a lot more bigs with major flaws, but who excell at certain aspects of the game listed before him. Nesterovic has no major flaws. He can score, rebound and block shots, but unlike the others, he's not that much of a liability with the ball in his hands and he shoots for better percentages. He's a lot more consisitent and therefore a lot more reliable.
17- Leandro Barbosa PG 47 12.5 6.4 1.8 1.8 0.5 0.0 1.2 .482 .871 .425 (NR)
When I first started cutting and pasting stat lines, I initially pasted Barbosa's near the top of the list. Then, when I started crunching numbers and actually ranking these players, he began to drop. Actually, plummet is a better word to use. In starter's minutes earlier this year Barbosa put up 19.3 ppg (.473 .500 .933) 4.2 boards and 4.8 dimes to go with 1.5 steals--all very good numbers. But...and it's a big ol' fucking but...he also averaged exactly 4 TOs per game for an assist to turnover ratio of 1.2 to 1. F-u-c-k-i-n-g A-w-f-u-l. I suspect that a move to SG would help quite a bit, but we'll just have to wait and see.
16- Ronny Turiaf PF 47 20.1 7.2 5.3 1.3 0.8 1.4 0.9 .434 .640 .000 (NR)
Rounding out the first half of this season's best backup list is rookie shot-blocking specialist Ronny Turiaf. He's not as good of a rebounder as the bigs listed before him, but he can score at about the same clip. What ranks him above his peers is: a) the fact that he's not a bumbling idiot with the ball in his hands, and b) he's the best statistical defender of the lot. If Tyson Chandler didn't exist, Turiaf could someday probably challenge for the shot-blocking crown (if there was one.) In fact, since I started working on this article, his blocks per 32 minutes has increased from 2.2 to almost 2.7.
Coming soon: Jiggy's Top 30 BBS Backups 2005 (15-1)
And now...
Players 30 through 16
30- Eric Snow PG 44 21.7 5.9 2.3 4.0 0.7 0.1 1.1 .440 .811 .350 (NR)
Snow takes great care of the ball. If you project him out to 38mpg, he still doesn't crack 2 TOs. And he can hit jumpers when called upon. If I'm playing with the lead, there isn't another backup PG in the league that I'd feel more comfortable with spelling my starter. He won't lose you games, but he won't win you any either. He's solid, but there are no ifs ands or buts about his backup status. He is what he is.
29- Donyell Marshall SF 46 25.4 7.9 6.6 1.9 1.0 0.8 1.0 .432 .705 .440 (24)
Like his shooting percentages, Marshall slips a bit on this seasons list. Last year's 24th ranked player still puts up a healthy stat line though, and is still one of the better rebounding tweener forwards out there. Like Snow before him, you wouldn't want to be in a position where he'd have to start (which is why both players are ranked at the tail end off the list) but give him 20 or so minutes a night and he'll more than earn his check.
28- Kirk Hinrich PG 49 23.4 8.1 2.8 4.1 0.8 0.2 1.6 .430 .744 .353 (NR)
After making notable strides during his sophomore season, Hinrich's progress has slowed somewhat and now he appears to be the odd man out in Dallas. Though he could probably benefit from a change of scenery (he could probably find a starting job somewhere in BBS) his large contract will probably prevent that from happening for now. However, he's already shown that he can run an offense. He's not a big time passer or shooter, but he can manage 14ppg, while taking pretty good care of the ball and even grabbing some steals. If he can continue improving over the next couple of seasons, he very well could establish himself as a solid starter in this league.
27- Jameer Nelson PG 39 25.5 9.4 3.3 5.4 1.3 0.1 2.2 .428 .845 .389 (NR)
After starting the season deep on the bench, Nelson nabbed a starting role, lost it, and then gained it back again. It seems as though his development has stalled. And being in a RC/AC black hole like Toronto isn't going to help him progress. While his TOs are more of a problem than Hinrich's, he's got a better shot, is a better distributor and is a better statistical defender. He too would probably be better off wearing a different uniform.
26- Dan Gadzuric C 33 22.3 7.4 8.0 1.0 0.7 1.0 0.9 .391 .600 .000 (NR)
If given starter's minutes, Gads would probably be a top 10 rebounder in this league. He's also a pretty good defender and could probably muster double-digit scoring based on bulk alone. However, as we can see, the latter translates into some god-awful shooting percentages. Unlike his teammate Jameer Nelson, ending up in Toronto was best case scenario for Gads, as he was languishing on the deep benches of his previous employers. It looks like DJ got a bit of a steal in signing him to a 2 year minimum deal.
25- Andris Biedrins PF 48 21.2 8.3 6.0 1.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 .447 .629 .000 (NR)
While his numbers aren't that bad at all, it'll be hard for Biedrins to live up to his 7th overall pick status. Especially since hot shot Benny Go Go was picked at #8. And though he's got a long way to go in his development to even come close to justifying such a high selection, he has come along fairly well so far. Statistically speaking, he's improved in every single category, which has seen his reputation as a "meh" starter replaced with the "solid backup" label. Overall though, with the 7th pick, you're looking for a lot more than a solid backup, and since I can't see him developing into a legit starter, I think the term "bust" is more than applicable here.
24- Jason Williams PG 45 21.0 5.3 1.9 5.0 1.6 0.2 1.8 .476 .639 .351 (NR)
The best distributing backup PG in the league is also one of the best ball hawks out there. At one point last season, White Chocolate was leading the league in steals. But, he's also the guy who Troy Bell ran out of town, so there's that. His overall FG% has improved markedly since moving to the bench, but despite a B+ outside shooting grade, his range percentages are pretty bad for a point. He's also a poor rebounder...and then there are the turnovers. In his two years as a starter, he averaged 3 TOs a game and less than 10ppg on bad percentages. As a backup though, he seems to be on the fast track to success with the Spurs, and looks to be riding the pine straight to a championship.
23- Jahidi White PF 43 26.9 10.2 6.9 1.7 1.0 1.4 1.3 .451 .720 .000 (NR)
White is another player who has helped his stock by picking up minutes on a bad team. Other than his turnover totals being a little higher than you'd like for a big, he's a solid contributor in nearly every category, most notably points, steals and blocks. These numbers figure to get him a nice raise come FA, though something tells me it won't be from the Heat. I suspect that he'll price himself out of their comfort zone and end up as a MLE (getting far fewer minutes) on a playoff team.
22- Kendrick Perkins C 45 25.6 9.8 8.0 1.2 0.6 1.9 1.2 .394 .615 .000 (NR)
Big Perk!!! The first member of Denver's big rotation to make the list, he, like Dan Gadzuric, gets most of his offense on sheer bulk and ends up with pretty awful shooting percentages. And while Gads is a slightly better rebounder, Perk is suddenly a much better shot blocker, which is a premium statistical category in BBS. Still only 20, he probably still has some potential left to burn, and if things go well, he could end up as someone you'd feel comfortable with starting in a pinch.
21- T.J. Ford PG 42 10.6 4.1 1.0 1.8 0.5 0.0 0.7 .493 .727 .267 (7)
Last year's #7 is a prime example of how much better the talent level in BBS has risen in just one season. Despite ugly-ass letter grades, T.J. finds a way to do his job night after night. In fact, Washington may be better served by giving him a chance to start over Derek Fisher. If projections are any type of accurate measuring stick, Ford could be putting up comparable numbers on much better percentages and getting the steals that Fisher does. The assist totals would be lower, but so would the TOs and that's a trade-off I'd be willing to make. Give him a shot Jah. What's the worst that could happen?
20- Shane Battier SF 47 24.2 9.1 3.8 2.3 0.9 0.4 0.7 .451 .758 .374 (NR)
Battier probably would have ranked higher than 20 on last year's list based on his solid all-around game, but at press time he was shooting under 40%, which is pretty unacceptable for a wing, imo. He's still not a great scorer, but his percentages are now more than adequate to be ranked. Sure he's no longer an offensive liability and he always plays really good positional D, but what sets Shane apart from most of the other wings in the game is his ability to limit his turnovers. Projected out to starter's minutes, he could very well still average less than one a game. That's sick!
19- Kwame Brown PF 47 15.0 5.2 4.3 0.7 0.6 0.9 0.7 .433 .569 .000 (NR)
Who knew that Kwame could block shots? Not me. Not Maniac. In fact, I'm not even sure that Kwame knew. Yet somehow, he's nearly doubled his production in that category this season. With these backup bigs, I find that they're all basically the same player, each with a few subtle nuances. In 32 minutes, each will average 10-12 ppg and 8-10 rpg, shoot reletively poorly and look like a dildo with the ball in his hands. But what pushes Brown past the ones listed so far is his statistical defense. Being able to pick up steals and blocks at the rate that he does is something that every GM would like out of his backup bigs.
18- Radoslav Nesterovic C 43 21.9 7.0 7.0 1.1 0.7 1.2 0.6 .469 .653 .000 (22)
This season, Rado moves up a few spots from #22 to #18. So if the quality of backups in the league has increased and Rado has basically stayed the same, then why has he risen on the list and not fallen? Simple. There are a lot more bigs with major flaws, but who excell at certain aspects of the game listed before him. Nesterovic has no major flaws. He can score, rebound and block shots, but unlike the others, he's not that much of a liability with the ball in his hands and he shoots for better percentages. He's a lot more consisitent and therefore a lot more reliable.
17- Leandro Barbosa PG 47 12.5 6.4 1.8 1.8 0.5 0.0 1.2 .482 .871 .425 (NR)
When I first started cutting and pasting stat lines, I initially pasted Barbosa's near the top of the list. Then, when I started crunching numbers and actually ranking these players, he began to drop. Actually, plummet is a better word to use. In starter's minutes earlier this year Barbosa put up 19.3 ppg (.473 .500 .933) 4.2 boards and 4.8 dimes to go with 1.5 steals--all very good numbers. But...and it's a big ol' fucking but...he also averaged exactly 4 TOs per game for an assist to turnover ratio of 1.2 to 1. F-u-c-k-i-n-g A-w-f-u-l. I suspect that a move to SG would help quite a bit, but we'll just have to wait and see.
16- Ronny Turiaf PF 47 20.1 7.2 5.3 1.3 0.8 1.4 0.9 .434 .640 .000 (NR)
Rounding out the first half of this season's best backup list is rookie shot-blocking specialist Ronny Turiaf. He's not as good of a rebounder as the bigs listed before him, but he can score at about the same clip. What ranks him above his peers is: a) the fact that he's not a bumbling idiot with the ball in his hands, and b) he's the best statistical defender of the lot. If Tyson Chandler didn't exist, Turiaf could someday probably challenge for the shot-blocking crown (if there was one.) In fact, since I started working on this article, his blocks per 32 minutes has increased from 2.2 to almost 2.7.
Coming soon: Jiggy's Top 30 BBS Backups 2005 (15-1)
