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[josh]

Aug 22, 2012 0:43:43 GMT -5 @play34 said:

Aug 22, 2012 0:37:59 GMT -5 @deviltrigger said:

I don't think there should be a lot of A+ defenders. I believe the only players that warrant an "A+" rating is Ron Artest and Ben Wallace.

Kidd was the best defensive point guard in the league during that time, Duncan and KG were the best defensive fowards in the league...they deserve A+ defense....7 or 8 players out of 300+ is fine IMO...Those guys are some of the BEST defenders of ALL time.

Yes thats right.

As a Pacer fan not sure on the A+ on Artest tho... He was great but I will take any of the others... I mean if he is A+, gets the lower A+ IMO

[josh]

Amare Stoudemire PF 6'10'' 245 20 B+ C- D+ B- C A

Bette reb IMO. Was solid .

[deviltrigger]

Not sure about Artest getting an "A+"? He won DPOTY the year this league will start and is already known to be a notorious defender. Artest was the last "non-PF/C" to win a DPOTY award since Gary Payton won it in 1996. Artest should be one of the TOP A+ guys if anything.

[josh]

He won it because the great season we had and the change defensively with Carlisle instead of that Isaiah moron. We improved a lot in wins and in defensive points allowed and that was the recongnition for it, I mean was a great defender, but its a bit like Chandler winning this year, Not unfair, but the award dont tell everything

[SPENCER]

More gripes please.

[josh]

Mike Bibby PG 6'1'' 190 25 C A- B- B D+ C

Was a 18.4 per game in a stacked team. Dont know if we will be able to get there with that

C+ A- or C A off

[Deleted]

yeah Bibby should be C+ A-

[josh]

I posted it here because can't find Bibby in the preseason.

[SPENCER]

K, more.

[josh]

Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C B D+ A
Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C+ B D+ A

Averaged 7.6 when started in his rookie season . If not with the low progression /ratings he will have a hard time bumping C to C+

[Magna Carta]

not sure what to gripe. I know what you want to keep ratings low and I'm not sure I see anything glaring considering that

I'd give Peja the A outside though. That would make only him, Allen and Nash. Seems fair. He's probably just about there anyway. Just give it to him

[Tigertecz]

KMart's ratings a lil high? Trying to remember this far back but seems a little too pretty ratings wise... Dunno if Kobe is an A+ defender... Marbury that much worse than Francis?

[josh]

Richard Hamilton SG 6'7'' 193 25 B+ B- C B- C- B

Richard Hamilton SG 6'7'' 193 25 B B C B C- B


He wasnt ever a drive or post up player in any means... not a high jump guy or strenght Even B- inside

[josh]

Aug 22, 2012 12:20:07 GMT -5 Tigertecz said:

KMart's ratings a lil high? Trying to remember this far back but seems a little too pretty ratings wise... Dunno if Kobe is an A+ defender... Marbury that much worse than Francis?

Probably that A- is all jump and strenght

Dont forget he got a max for the Nuggets. Despites he sucked on the finals.

But yes probably B+ B+ B- guy

[SPENCER]

Aug 22, 2012 12:18:36 GMT -5 josh said:

Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C B D+ A
Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C+ B D+ A

Averaged 7.6 when started in his rookie season . If not with the low progression /ratings he will have a hard time bumping C to C+

In FBB I think 7.6 assists is pretty easy for a starting PG.

[Magna Carta]

I like the Rip gripe

[Tigertecz]

Scratch my Starbury/Francis comment. Just saw the numbers Starbury put up in the preseason sim. Ratings deceptive.

[josh]

Aug 22, 2012 12:25:40 GMT -5 SPENCER said:

Aug 22, 2012 12:18:36 GMT -5 josh said:

Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C B D+ A
Kirk Hinrich PG 6'3'' 190 22 C B C+ B D+ A

Averaged 7.6 when started in his rookie season . If not with the low progression /ratings he will have a hard time bumping C to C+

In FBB I think 7.6 assists is pretty easy for a starting PG.

Yeah but he took care of the ball and that ...IDK C seems a bit lower. BTW Hinrich has played half of his career at SG so C is good

[Magna Carta]

shitty year to start the league for Pierce meh... I'd give him the A- inside though. And he's a far better shooter than he showed that year but I understand you want Kobe/T-Bac/AI/Carter ahead of him

[Deleted]

I agree with Peja having A outside