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[gmgreggor]

Was he good at the goaline yea, but Carter didn't put fear in defenses.

[Treasure Island]

Sept 20, 2012 18:52:30 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

Was he good at the goaline yea, but Carter didn't put fear in defenses.

lol what a joke

[Treasure Island]

hey my first arguement didn't hold up, now let's try to swing it a different way

[gmgreggor]

Sept 20, 2012 18:53:43 GMT -5 Treasure Island said:

hey my first arguement didn't hold up, now let's try to swing it a different way

What was my first point dumbass?

Sept 18, 2012 18:54:41 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

You should have at least been considered the best at your position to me at one time in your career.

[gmgreggor]

Actually I'm not sure Brown and Rison are HOF either.

Hell you cant put in everyone.

[gmgreggor]

Carter would be before them also I think.

[gmgreggor]

Tho Brown gets some extra points because he was a good returner as well.

[Treasure Island]

Sept 20, 2012 18:58:56 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

Sept 20, 2012 18:53:43 GMT -5 Treasure Island said:

hey my first arguement didn't hold up, now let's try to swing it a different way

What was my first point dumbass?

Sept 18, 2012 18:54:41 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

You should have at least been considered the best at your position to me at one time in your career.

Carter is
#8 all time in touchdowns
#4 all time in receptions
#8 all time in receiving yard


So that means in what the 40-50+ years the AFL/NFL has been existence there are only 7 people with more TDs, 3 more with more receptions and 7 more with more receiveing yards clearly proving your point that "you should have at least been considered the best at your position to you at one time in your career."

I'm sorry it's not Cris Carter's fault he played at a time when someone like Jerry Rice was in the league.

[Treasure Island]

but now that your little point has been thrown out the window lets make it about "putting fear in your opponent" because clearly "putting fear in your opponent" is a factor when entering in the hall of fame

[gmgreggor]

Sept 20, 2012 19:18:12 GMT -5 Treasure Island said:

Sept 20, 2012 18:58:56 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

What was my first point dumbass?

Carter is
#8 all time in touchdowns
#4 all time in receptions
#8 all time in receiving yard


So that means in what the 40-50+ years the AFL/NFL has been existence there are only 7 people with more TDs, 3 more with more receptions and 7 more with more receiveing yards clearly proving your point that "you should have at least been considered the best at your position to you at one time in your career."

I'm sorry it's not Cris Carter's fault he played at a time when someone like Jerry Rice was in the league.

Really you can throw out a lot of those stats.

The lg hasn't really been a passing lg until the last 25 yrs or so at best and that's being generous. It's relative.

[gmgreggor]

Sept 20, 2012 19:19:15 GMT -5 Treasure Island said:

but now that your little point has been thrown out the window lets make it about "putting fear in your opponent" because clearly "putting fear in your opponent" is a factor when entering in the hall of fame

I think that should be a factor.

[gmgreggor]

He had some excellent years.

Just not sure he's a HOF.

[gmgreggor]

Honestly though, there'd quite a few guys that probably shouldn't be in the HOF.

[gmgreggor]

But hey, that's just my opinion.

[Broph]

Sept 20, 2012 19:31:13 GMT -5 gmgreggor said:

Sept 20, 2012 19:18:12 GMT -5 Treasure Island said:

Carter is
#8 all time in touchdowns
#4 all time in receptions
#8 all time in receiving yard


So that means in what the 40-50+ years the AFL/NFL has been existence there are only 7 people with more TDs, 3 more with more receptions and 7 more with more receiveing yards clearly proving your point that "you should have at least been considered the best at your position to you at one time in your career."

I'm sorry it's not Cris Carter's fault he played at a time when someone like Jerry Rice was in the league.

Really you can throw out a lot of those stats.

The lg hasn't really been a passing lg until the last 25 yrs or so at best and that's being generous. It's relative.

ol awful, so what if the league wasn't a passing league, how does that make it less of a case. It was more difficult to pass back then with the rules the way they were on PI and contact by DB's....but, since teams didnt pass as much that is less impressive./ In reality that makes those numbers more impressive, not less so, and the numbers nowadays less impressive.


As for the Best Player at your position, thats idiotic. Rice was something special, that doesn't take away the fact that Carter was too, just means Rice was that much better than everybody else.

[Treasure Island]

lol @ bringing up the point about it not being a passer's league up until recently yet Cris Carter is at the top at every relevant category for a WR

[Treasure Island]

he did 1,241 13 TDs at 34 and then followed it up with another 1,200 yard season and 9 TDs at 35... yeah not HOF

[9-3 || #17]

the ridiculous passing numbers didn't come into effect until ty law sonned manning really and they changed the rules to cater to peyton

[jimlahey]

Carolina is still a pretty bad team.

[Broph]

so, my 2 pickups, Andre Brown and Martellus Bennett each have a TD


Victor Cruz has 2 points total right now, smfh, come on dude