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Post by ashes on May 22, 2013 16:05:41 GMT -5
4 1sts for the Cavs 1st? Yikes
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New Orleans Hornets
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:07:34 GMT -5
4 1sts for the Cavs 1st? Yikes Is it really too much to ask for the ability to rebuild properly? I hardly think it's unreasonable. |
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Post by ashes on May 22, 2013 16:09:56 GMT -5
4 1sts for the Cavs 1st? Yikes Is it really too much to ask for the ability to rebuild properly? I hardly think it's unreasonable. I think that, in particular, is unreasonable, but to each his own. |
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Post by mustajab on May 22, 2013 16:12:16 GMT -5
4 non-Cavs 1st for your pick back shouldn't be an issue at all. You have no control over those picks. They could be in the 20-28 range, so why risk them when you can get your own pick back and control your own fate. I don't know how much further I can spell this out. You'd be trading me picks belonging to Marty, Greeme and AllDay - all of whom are good GMs I agree this offer is not so bad, previous were difficult to swallow. But I don't like rebuilding and if I can delay it another year I don't mind, I just need to get 42 wins. |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:12:44 GMT -5
Meh... to each his own, like you said. Personally, I spare no expense to hold the fate of my team in my own hands. I once offered Rondo in his prime for a single Hornets pick back. It got rejected, so I traded for Quincy Acy instead  |
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Post by mustajab on May 22, 2013 16:12:59 GMT -5
But still i think it is alot so my offer still stands...
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Post by gp on May 22, 2013 16:13:09 GMT -5
Is it really too much to ask for the ability to rebuild properly? I hardly think it's unreasonable. I think that, in particular, is unreasonable, but to each his own. |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:16:23 GMT -5
But still i think it is alot so my offer still stands... Your offer sucks dude. Sorry |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:16:41 GMT -5
I think that, in particular, is unreasonable, but to each his own. Says the guy who turned down Rondo for a single Hornets pick |
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Post by gp on May 22, 2013 16:19:44 GMT -5
Says the guy who turned down Rondo for a single Hornets pick I didn't want fuckin rondo then and i didnt want to flip him. Idk why I have to keep explaining that to you. |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:20:46 GMT -5
Says the guy who turned down Rondo for a single Hornets pick I didn't want fuckin rondo then and i didnt want to flip him. Idk why I have to keep explaining that to you. Because it didn't make sense then and doesn't make sense now. |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:22:29 GMT -5
Old man Rondo on his current deal for one first is still a bargain. 6 years ago in his prime for one first is absurd.
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:24:30 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I'm in no hurry to trade musta's pick back to him. His team is lotto this year and older next year. He has no cap flexibility and will lose Macvan if he doesn't offer to sign during resignings
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Post by gp on May 22, 2013 16:33:07 GMT -5
I didn't want fuckin rondo then and i didnt want to flip him. Idk why I have to keep explaining that to you. Because it didn't make sense then and doesn't make sense now. You don't make sense. Most GMs would compete for an another year than give up 4 picks for one of their own. |
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Post by mustajab on May 22, 2013 16:33:28 GMT -5
i'll have close to 12 mill to offer him. if i need to go over the hc i will. i've got offers which can increase my flexibility right now. i can surely wait until the offseason to create space easily. so many possibilities. two portland picks > late lotto or mid round 1st round i think.
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:49:58 GMT -5
Because it didn't make sense then and doesn't make sense now. You don't make sense. Most GMs would compete for an another year than give up 4 picks for one of their own. What's that have to do with Rondo? |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 16:50:22 GMT -5
i'll have close to 12 mill to offer him. if i need to go over the hc i will. i've got offers which can increase my flexibility right now. i can surely wait until the offseason to create space easily. so many possibilities. two portland picks > late lotto or mid round 1st round i think. That's if the pick is indeed that low |
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Post by mustajab on May 22, 2013 17:02:29 GMT -5
i'll have close to 12 mill to offer him. if i need to go over the hc i will. i've got offers which can increase my flexibility right now. i can surely wait until the offseason to create space easily. so many possibilities. two portland picks > late lotto or mid round 1st round i think. That's if the pick is indeed that low I'll try to compete next year, and i'll try to make moves to make me better for that year, so it should be low lotto at best. There's two teams with a better record than me currently not in the playoffs, that could change. I think you're undervaluing two back to back picks from a team. You may post my offer if you change your mind. |
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Post by nybombers3 on May 22, 2013 17:48:43 GMT -5
Isn't this a bit over the top? At least the top prospect part anyways |
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Post by aar on May 22, 2013 18:48:11 GMT -5
Isn't this a bit over the top? At least the top prospect part anyways He was two seasons removed from being the top overall pick and had stellar notes. |
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