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Mar 11, 2013 12:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by Alex Len on Mar 11, 2013 12:50:15 GMT -5
Damn yeah sorry a B+ A+ scorer isn't a top defender. B- rebounding at SF is a great advantage too, wish I got him
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 12:50:20 GMT -5
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 12:51:26 GMT -5
Damn yeah sorry a B+ A+ scorer isn't a top defender. B- rebounding at SF is a great advantage too, wish I got him why are u getting sarcastic with me lol? Melo is going to be 31 and on a huge contract. Sure he is a beast but his trade value isnt that great is all I was saying really.. |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 12:51:55 GMT -5
and this gets the bucks no closer to winning shit. they are still awful and dont have a way to get much better
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Post by greeme on Mar 11, 2013 12:53:30 GMT -5
I'd much rather have Melo over Ben if you're hinting at him being as good as Melo. I'm after better anyway so I wont Lol at much Melo is slightly better that is it I'm just saying offer for Ben bc I'm moving him cheap and then you will whine |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 12:55:40 GMT -5
Bazz is going to be better than Butler imo. he is very similar actually. 1 spg, 1 bpg and he has the man defense to go with it unlike butler. great 3 point shot and jump shot coming along. Bazz has all of his camps as well, if he gets them now he would be just as good as butler and he should still have a lot of improving to do in TC. And AV is good but again only worth a first maybe 2 shitty firsts Bazz only has value right now because he has potential. As a first option he's putting up 14 ppg. Butler was doing 22 as a rookie with the same letter ratings. Nah I dont think Bazz with shoot with the same volume nearly close to Butler in the future |
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Post by greeme on Mar 11, 2013 12:56:14 GMT -5
Damn yeah sorry a B+ A+ scorer isn't a top defender. B- rebounding at SF is a great advantage too, wish I got him Well I'm trying give you Ben for next to nothing and you are hesitating |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 12:56:32 GMT -5
Bazz is going to be better than Butler imo. he is very similar actually. 1 spg, 1 bpg and he has the man defense to go with it unlike butler. great 3 point shot and jump shot coming along. Bazz has all of his camps as well, if he gets them now he would be just as good as butler and he should still have a lot of improving to do in TC. And AV is good but again only worth a first maybe 2 shitty firsts Bazz only has value right now because he has potential. As a first option he's putting up 14 ppg. Butler was doing 22 as a rookie with the same letter ratings. Nah I dont think Bazz with shoot with the same volume nearly close to Butler in the future its been one sim lol he put up 15 as a low option last year |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 12:57:13 GMT -5
Bazz is going to be better than Butler imo. he is very similar actually. 1 spg, 1 bpg and he has the man defense to go with it unlike butler. great 3 point shot and jump shot coming along. Bazz has all of his camps as well, if he gets them now he would be just as good as butler and he should still have a lot of improving to do in TC. And AV is good but again only worth a first maybe 2 shitty firsts Bazz only has value right now because he has potential. As a first option he's putting up 14 ppg. Butler was doing 22 as a rookie with the same letter ratings. Nah I dont think Bazz with shoot with the same volume nearly close to Butler in the future u are basing that off of one sim? nice. bazz has low passing, if he gets all of his camps to scoring why wouldnt he score in volume? |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 13:05:39 GMT -5
Bazz only has value right now because he has potential. As a first option he's putting up 14 ppg. Butler was doing 22 as a rookie with the same letter ratings. Nah I dont think Bazz with shoot with the same volume nearly close to Butler in the future u are basing that off of one sim? nice. bazz has low passing, if he gets all of his camps to scoring why wouldnt he score in volume? What in his notes told you that he has low passing? They also say he wont be much of a statistic defender. Were ever play decides to camp him the most be it his scoring or his defense. One of them wont be the same level as Butler. Dont forget Butler is probably the only player in the league that plays over 35 mpg and still averages less than 1 TO per game for his career |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 13:08:02 GMT -5
u are basing that off of one sim? nice. bazz has low passing, if he gets all of his camps to scoring why wouldnt he score in volume? What in his notes told you that he has low passing? They also say he wont be much of a statistic defender. Were ever play decides to camp him the most be it his scoring or his defense. One of them wont be the same level as Butler. Dont forget Butler is probably the only player in the league that plays over 35 mpg and still averages less than 1 TO per game for his career he avg. 1.0 spg and .6 bpg in 31.5 mpg last year at SG with like B- defense. He will clearly be able to avg over 1 spg and 1 bpg in his prime. and whoever camps bazz should camp his scoring obviously. |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 13:08:35 GMT -5
and i can tell he has low passing b/c of the low apg #s lol.. and he doesnt turn it over either
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Post by aar on Mar 11, 2013 13:08:45 GMT -5
u are basing that off of one sim? nice. bazz has low passing, if he gets all of his camps to scoring why wouldnt he score in volume? What in his notes told you that he has low passing? They also say he wont be much of a statistic defender. Were ever play decides to camp him the most be it his scoring or his defense. One of them wont be the same level as Butler. Dont forget Butler is probably the only player in the league that plays over 35 mpg and still averages less than 1 TO per game for his career Quincy Acy |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 13:11:29 GMT -5
What in his notes told you that he has low passing? They also say he wont be much of a statistic defender. Were ever play decides to camp him the most be it his scoring or his defense. One of them wont be the same level as Butler. Dont forget Butler is probably the only player in the league that plays over 35 mpg and still averages less than 1 TO per game for his career Quincy Acy Yea and Acy is one of the most valueble players in the league correct despite his ratings? Rest my case |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 13:13:39 GMT -5
even if you valued Bazz more right now, it isn't by much. Kobe's talking to camp Bazz just to get to what Butler already does.
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Post by aar on Mar 11, 2013 13:15:06 GMT -5
Yea and Acy is one of the most valueble players in the league correct despite his ratings? Rest my case One of?  |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 13:19:21 GMT -5
Yea and Acy is one of the most valueble players in the league correct despite his ratings? Rest my case One of? debatable but your still prive my point. |
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Cavs/Bucks
Mar 11, 2013 13:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by Alex Len on Mar 11, 2013 13:22:19 GMT -5
Damn yeah sorry a B+ A+ scorer isn't a top defender. B- rebounding at SF is a great advantage too, wish I got him Well I'm trying give you Ben for next to nothing and you are hesitating 4 picks next to nothing ? |
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Post by kobe on Mar 11, 2013 13:38:31 GMT -5
Yea and Acy is one of the most valueble players in the league correct despite his ratings? Rest my case lol wtf are u talking about? Butler has good ratings. B+ A- scoring C+ rebounding... and ppl are willing to over look the C+ defense b/c of the block. I hope u arent comparing him to Acy lol. its obvious u overvalue him 22 ppg as a first option on bad teams isn't anything special |
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Post by alldaygb on Mar 11, 2013 13:59:28 GMT -5
Yea and Acy is one of the most valueble players in the league correct despite his ratings? Rest my case lol wtf are u talking about? Butler has good ratings. B+ A- scoring C+ rebounding... and ppl are willing to over look the C+ defense b/c of the block. I hope u arent comparing him to Acy lol. its obvious u overvalue him 22 ppg as a first option on bad teams isn't anything special This is the first year Butler has even had B+ A- before that he only had 1 year where he was B A-, the rest of his career he was B- A- putting up similar stats. Just look it's not like Butler hasn't been doing this his whole career. I'm not talking one season. lol at my team being bad... we just mad the playoffs in the tougher conference. That last line is exactly what people said lol. As if Bazz isn't on a bad team right now, my team is clearly better |
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